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Nana Skalski
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Posted - 2016.02.14 09:35:45 -
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I see a very sad person without avatar image. Pray for him...
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:31:30 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Where are all the players telling newbies, skill points do not matter? Now we realize, this was and is a lie. I fell this myself after applying a couple of skill injectors ... I can have everything instantly ... but why? EvE had the feeling of a real open world, with limits, with unreachable goals, like getting all skills ... now it feels the eternity folded into the beginning, EvE became a closed loop ... You naughty girl. Looks like bad trip to me.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:33:04 -
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Tippia wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:Where are all the players telling newbies, skill points do not matter? Now we realize, this was and is a lie. They still don't matter. What matters is thatGǪ Quote:EvE had the feeling of a real open world, with limits, with unreachable goals, like getting all skills ... now it feels the eternity folded into the beginning, EvE became a closed loop ... GǪa core part of the GÇ£feelGÇ¥ of EVE has been sacrificed for a quick injection of cash, and for no real benefit to the game itself. Age and history had some kind of meaning; that meaning is gone. What was once the most valued commodity in the game GÇö time GÇö is now trivially tradable on the in-game market and offered in abundance for anyone who wants to pay. Its the future, you adapt or what?
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Its the future, you adapt or what? Adapt to what? That CCP is pursuing short-term strategies that hurts their long-time viability? Yeah, sure. I have other games to play when that process has run its course. Quote:And since when history and experience does not matter? Since day 1. It's pretty much the life-blood of any persistent and long-lasting game GÇö indeed, it's what makes the persistence last so long. If your business model is to sell long-term progression, then letting people skip that progression means you no longer have a viable business model. Idea of a viable style of play is very different for many people, EVE have this advantage, that it allows to do many shenanigans, so having perfect skills, does not mean you will not have to carve your own history and experience. And this is all about it here, if you have less or more SP it does not really matter so much.
You remember the former EVE intro? "Dare to be bold pilot, forge your own path to the greatness."
SP aquirement is not really this forging. Everyone can have it for free.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 16:04:12 -
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We have different ideas about what is your history and what is experience. Time is not significant like you would want to see it. What matters most is what you have been able to do.
If you have less SP, more glory to you if you can pull something. If perferct skills, experience and history matters the most.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 16:29:45 -
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Dr Caymus wrote:Pandora Bokks wrote:Dr Caymus wrote:The new skill system: Dawn of a New Era or Epic Fail
Perhaps I owe CCP an apology for making a goal of leading the skillpoint group for the last 13 years, I must have offended them greatly for them to do what they have done to the system.
However, now a complete mockery of the system has been made with a 3-day-old character. Was that not seen coming?
This could have been done much more effectively with more controls: more tiers with decreasing marginal gains at higher SP levels, daily limits, or whatever.
Back up and restore, anyone? I feel a bit sorry for you, but to be honest - paying a subscription for 13 years in a row is nothing I would call an achievement. If it is that important for you, you an get back to top position in a couple of hours. You're missing the point, Pandora. You are correct, I have the resources to take this char to max if I wanted, but this isn't about me, its about the game... its history, its lore, its value, its perception within the gaming industry. Live up to your words and dont pay attention to SP whores who like to wave around their lengthened artificially SPeen.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 16:34:56 -
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Quote:the history and progression of your character. The part that no longer matters since it's optional.
IT WAS ALWAYS OPTIONAL. No wonder some people dont pay attention to it. They only see SP.
Everyone had SP like a dog had his bone.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 16:48:43 -
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Tippia wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:IT WAS ALWAYS OPTIONAL. No. Before, you always had to actually plan ahead and think about where you wanted to end up. Depending on the time required, it was also a good idea to consider whether everything would have changed by the time you got there.
Bullshit. Character bazaar. Thank you.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 18:12:59 -
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Quote:You can be as good as him (in 1 or few focused way) in a relative short time No. You all lost. Na na na na na.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 18:44:51 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Barrett Fruitcake wrote:I once thought is was amazing that it would take 20-30 years to train all this skills in this game.
I think something has been lost....
Of course I do to. But because SP trading is not completely "P2W", some people don't have the foresight to see why this is bad. It's nothing new, there were people defending Dominion's Sov system for like 2 years after it was implemented even though the bad affects of that system were already apparent. People selling or buying SP and maxing out characters isn't the end of the world, it is an early warning indicator of truly bad things to come. It shows that CCP doesn't understand the value of the things they keep putting on the chopping block. Even after draining 2 characters I'm still sitting on enough SP to keep my 4 accounts in plexes (at current plex prices) for like 3 years. WTF CCP?
Sneak was saying "take a small bite, noone will know". CCP is the snake. Guess who are the sinners.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 21:57:45 -
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Play for years alongside characters with lvl 5 skills and nobody cares.
One man emerges who have them all on lvl 5 and everybody loses their minds.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 22:31:30 -
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Waylan Yutani wrote:I trained gall dread lvl 5, siege t2, and capital hybrid turret lvl 5. Then a corpied logged on and told me he just trained minnie dread v, siege t2 and perfect loki skills with injectors. I feel that Something was lost somehow Not only you, we all have lost this man to.... gulp...injectors.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 23:06:36 -
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Inuro Enderas wrote:Waylan Yutani wrote:I trained gall dread lvl 5, siege t2, and capital hybrid turret lvl 5. Then a corpied logged on and told me he just trained minnie dread v, siege t2 and perfect loki skills with injectors. I feel that Something was lost somehow Exactly that. What a bad moment I chose to resub. I think I am going to cancel the subscription once again. Maybe CCP will change something eventually, then I will think about coming back. They have changed something eventually. But its your choice.
EVE is not what you are thinking it is. Its just an experiment, social experiment. They are testing adaptation of human mind to quickly changing environment. The winner will get all icelandic exotic dancers and a ton of hakarl.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 12:45:19 -
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No, they cant have anything they want.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 13:30:19 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Everything a player can normally acquire through time or effort can be bought for real life cash. Thats the thing though, time and effort is already made, nothing is conjured out of thin air There was a time, when you paid for access to a game world, where you were anonymous, role playing was the norm and people would start on a level playing field, no matter their real life circumstances.Now people can pay to cheat their way forward in games that have corrupted communities of tantrum kids. Games have become business as any other, so people throwing cash on games, and willing to spend more, will be satisfied. And remember, CCP only allows players to redistribute earned SP with other characters, something that was allowed with character bazaar earlier. Now its just more convenient, and some SP are lost.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 13:49:20 -
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We are coming to a point when I will defend players who throw money to the CCP and you will defend players denying CCP their money. Guess who CCP will listen more.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 14:26:10 -
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Hahaha, what if he will extract all this SP?
THAT would be funny.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 14:51:03 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:So SP farm is your point? That was done before you know... History Time Public information. Meh. If it is not in your Bio or on forums, its nowhere.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 15:04:02 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:... If it is not in your Bio ... its nowhere. Could it be? Are you starting to get it? "Know thy enemy" has flown out the window. You are about to be prepared. Its not about the convenience of knowledge. Its about surprise.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 17:48:55 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:I dont really see the problem.
Until golden ammo it makes no difference how people earn their SP to me. If, as the defenders of cash for skills claim it is okay because on cannot 'win' Eve, then what would be the problem with gold ammo? Winning a fight - any fight or fights using gold ammo, does not 'win' Eve as there is no 'win' Not sure if you understand what 'Gold Ammo' refers to. It means things you can only buy with RL cash. Fortunately, at the moment there's nothing in EVE that you can't acquire in-game, including SKINs and SP injectors. My dear chap, in case you are not aware of this, CCP has introduced cash for skills, precisely to generate more cash for the company. All else is smoke and mirrors. Earlier it introduced paying with cash for ISK, and characters full of perfect skills and a lot of SP. Everything we have now is nothing really changing the situation when CCP earns money, allows you to do something and you pay them for that.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 17:57:47 -
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Also why people are blaming CCP that they allow people to do something? People if you dont want this feature, dont use it. No one forcing you to extract or inject. Its your choice, and since when EVE players started to care about who have more SP?
Remember you had 50k SP when you started and you played so furiously? Now what? Yoy cry because everyone can have more SP than you?
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Posted - 2016.02.15 18:48:19 -
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Unemployment. In EVE. That is good.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 18:55:27 -
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Euthanasia by SP extracting, you can blame only yourself in that case.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 19:13:22 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I sincerely hope that the max skill set is some sort of hoax.
Not that I blame the player if this is indeed true; he only did what CCP, in effect, invited players to do.
CCP have opened Pandora's Box, but so long as the cash rolls in, they will not care. ... and this is a darn good reason while I won't be giving them any more RL $.
You go girl. Show them.
But what do you want to show them? That allowing someone to use SP injector is bad? Or that using injectors is bad?
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Posted - 2016.02.16 08:32:29 -
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Nachtengel von Rothschild wrote: welp... i am not rich
Rothschild, why you are not rich anymore?
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:21:08 -
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Codie Rin wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Codie Rin wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Codie Rin wrote:Why dont CCP just stop people being able to play their subs using ISK? If they want to make more money? Plex or game time can only be bought with RL cash not in game ISK. Surely this would make a massive increase in income. Think about it mate. The biggest problem with these forums is that you dont need to pass an IQ test to post here. Well please explain, enlighten me, because I am lost. If you mean then people will just unsub then yes there is that risk. When people buy PLEX with isk. Someone, somewhere spent real life money to create that PLEX. PLEX just represents 1 month subscription and its RL cost is higher than simply paying a month subscription on your own account. The added cost represents the value of being able to market the PLEX in game and as such pay other peoples subscriptions for in game reward. Yes but I can also just go mine and rat to gain the ISK i need to buy that plex FOR FREE. In fact I could if i so wanted never ever pay personally to play the game. So my point is remove that option so that you cant buy game time with ISK from ingame but in order to sub you need to physically pay for it. Sorry perhaps plex was a bad example. Basically you pay for your subs with real cash. FOR FREE? What about the energy bill and ruined relationships outside game? Nothing is free in this world. Playing games and grinding is what is scourge upon this lands.
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:24:03 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:stg slate wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: Oh look an apologist for abusive corprate greed that preys on the gullible.
Wait what, making money is corporate greed? Stop being smelly hippy. Game makers don't prey on people; people can make own choice to pay for hobbies. Selling people fancy golf clubs not taking advantage people, some people like fancy clubs even when cheaper ones work fine. This isn't golf clubs for rich people (whatever a responsible person does with his or her money is their business), this is someone intentionally deciding to open a liquor store right next to an alcoholic's anonymous meeting house then pretending like they didn't know their were alcoholics nearby.... That is just an ideal business environment.
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:50:30 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Don't we have enough McDonalds? There is no McDonalds here where I live. But you can still eat a burger. If they would not sell them here, probably McDonalds would. If CCP would not do that, someone else in industry would, and people would go there. Sometimes you must sell the burger, or McDonalods will, and it would be good to sell different (better) burgers than McDonalds.
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:53:13 -
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Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Gal Prof wrote:Would love to see more MAXED characters til it becomes a norm. LOL. Or a necessity... --Gadget Do it, max out your char. I dare you.
If you dont see pointlesness of that, do it.
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:46:45 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:stg slate wrote:Avvy wrote: The only thing that makes sense to me with this post I'm replying to, is that sp injectors can be addictive.
Yeah, but so can trading cards, but people are making it seem like the pokemon people making trading cards is like heroin dealer targeting children. You might not not have kids that live with you, because that's exactly how it feels.. I suffered a pokemon war in my own house. Kids are grown now but looking back over those battles I'd rather they'd just smoked weed or something... Death to pokemon. Its true, spaceships are like pokemon.
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Posted - 2016.02.17 16:26:24 -
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Quote:Since PLEX is equivalent to real money in some fashion
It is not. It is just a game item. You can use it in game only. It is not recognized as qwuivalent to real money in any fashion, because you cant exchange it for Money in real world. At least CCP does not do that and forbids that.
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Posted - 2016.02.17 21:52:33 -
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Dalketh wrote:I realize this was done as a joke (and the owner's need for attention) but it does make me sad.
Yes, some humans can do that to you. We are not perfect, sadly.
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Posted - 2016.02.18 19:58:28 -
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Quote:That insignificant part of the player base was respected by every player for their love and dedication to this game
I have heard about Caymus just now, when someone maxed his character, and I play this game for years. Its so ironic, dont you think?
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Posted - 2016.02.19 09:06:45 -
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Don Pera Saissore wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:I have heard about Caymus just now, when someone maxed his character, and I play this game for years. Its so ironic, dont you think? no thats actually sad
no thats just life
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Posted - 2016.04.24 10:52:50 -
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PvP and 1vs 1 generally will never be balanced because people are not balanced.
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